Darrin: That’s the kind of weather where you just want to enjoy being outside. Let’s jump right in. Social Work Advocacy Group — also known as SWAG — provides peer support to empower individuals navigating mental health systems while addressing cultural needs. What inspired you to start SWAG?

Sammantha: We saw a gap in peer support in our area and aimed to fill it. But the story is personal. While finishing my bachelor’s in human services, I lost my dad, stepdad, and grandfather back-to-back in 2019. I self-admitted for inpatient treatment and was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. I learned about therapy, psychiatry, coping skills — but from the patient perspective. I was already studying it academically, but experiencing it changed everything. That journey from patient to professional shaped SWAG. We exist to empower people in those moments and help them access available care.

Darrin: Thank you for your honesty. The statistics are alarming — roughly one mental health provider for every 350 people who need services. In Texas, access is even worse, correct?

Sammantha: Yes. Texas ranks 50th in access according to Mental Health America. Telehealth helped expand options during COVID, but many providers stayed virtual. In rural areas without reliable internet, that actually reduced access.

Darrin: That’s eye-opening. We assume technology equals access, but that’s not always true.

Sammantha: Exactly. We talk about Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. If basic needs aren’t met — money, transportation, internet — accessing care isn’t a priority. Awareness doesn’t equal access. And without understanding resources or feeling safe seeking them, people won’t engage.

Darrin: Where do traditional systems break most often for marginalized communities?

Sammantha: Compliance is a big one. Providers mark clients “non-compliant” if they miss appointments. But why did they miss it? No transportation? No internet? Long distance? Once labeled non-compliant, people stop seeking help. Systems aren’t built for people who naturally face barriers.

Darrin: That’s powerful. It’s easy to judge without understanding context.

Sammantha: Exactly. Policy over person. Like the movie Straw — sometimes people just want to be seen.

Darrin: You’ve been both patient and provider. How does lived experience change care delivery?

Sammantha: Our care isn’t clinical — it’s communal. Clients see that we’ve walked similar journeys. That builds immediate trust and shows recovery is possible.

Darrin: How long do clients typically engage with SWAG?

Sammantha: Up to a year. Many stabilize within 6–9 months, but we’re here as long as needed.

Darrin: Growing up, mental health wasn’t openly discussed in many communities. How do you approach that stigma?

Sammantha: Often in churches and community spaces. When people say “they just want attention,” I say yes — they need attention, care, love, maybe professional guidance. We reframe the narrative.

Darrin: How do you protect your own well-being while serving others?

Sammantha: I don’t think it’s wrong to take things home and reflect. Processing experiences can be constructive. It builds empathy and growth.

Darrin: What systemic gaps stand out most?

Sammantha: Provider diversity and accessibility. Many providers are Christian-based in East Texas. Some clients want that; others don’t. Insurance limitations and waitlists are also major barriers.

Darrin: What about telehealth versus in-person?

Sammantha: It’s about 50/50. Older adults often prefer in-person; younger individuals and those with social anxiety may prefer virtual.

Darrin: Is stigma decreasing?

Sammantha: Conversation has increased, but now we must guide it responsibly. Self-diagnosing through online tools isn’t the same as professional care.

Darrin: For someone new to therapy, what’s a starting point?

Sammantha: Seek help if distress impacts your life or if you have a problem you cannot solve alone. Therapy offers unbiased insight. You don’t have to wait for crisis.

Darrin: Should people look for therapists similar to them?

Sammantha: It depends. Trust and comfort matter. Cultural background, gender, lived experience — all can influence connection. Ask yourself what you need.

Darrin: Tell us about your workshops.

Sammantha: We began with cultural competency training for providers. Now we serve nonprofits, universities, military bases, and more. It’s interactive, scenario-based, and tailored to each organization.

Darrin: How do we rebuild trust in underserved communities?

Sammantha: Acknowledge historical harm. Don’t dismiss mistrust — validate it. Healing begins with honesty.

Darrin: Share some impact highlights.

Sammantha: Founded in 2022. First grant in 2024. We’ve served hundreds of individuals, hosted educational pop-ups, and continue expanding peer support services.

Darrin: Tell us about the Laughing to Heal Comedy Show.

Sammantha: It’s our annual mental health comedy fundraiser. We ask comedians to address mental health without stigma. It’s healing through laughter. Our next show is February 26 at 7 PM, during Black History Month.

Darrin: Closing thoughts — what shift should listeners consider?

Sammantha: Providers: examine accidental barriers. Patients: keep trying. Community members: fight for the change you want to see.

Darrin: What gives you hope?

Sammantha: History shows resilience. We’ve survived hard seasons before.

Darrin: Is it ever too early for mental health care?

Sammantha: No. My daughter began therapy at six after loss. Early support helps process emotions in healthy ways.

Darrin: How can people connect with you?

Sammantha: LinkedIn for professional updates. SWAdvocacy.org for our organization. Follow us on social media under SWAdvocacy.

Darrin: Thank you, Sammantha. This conversation was powerful and necessary. We appreciate the work you’re doing.